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Make sidewalls thicc again
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Make sidewalls thicc again
I can get behind this.
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Hnnng! That looks good!!!
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I suspect it’s also more practical in the real world. No more flat tires every time you nail a pothole. Yes, you might have to swap them out for a track day, but how often does the average Porsche owner go to the track anyway?
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I’m a fat tire fanatic:
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I’m not really sure you would need to swap over the wheel/tire. Sure the sidewall might roll a tiny bit but even in the pic, it’s not like a super swamper or anything.
I mean, it didn’t seem to hurt the F1.
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Def stepping down to 18's on the M3 when it’s time for tires
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I think you are absolutely right. It’s also great for ride quality. I went from 15 to 16" wheels on my 850 and I could tell a difference in ride quality, especially over bumps.
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That just looks like it means real business and makes some crazy grip
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17-18" wheels are perfectly at home on track.
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I really need to just finally pull the trigger and buy myself a square set of
Apex EC-7s for my car...
![]() 07/07/2020 at 12:11 |
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No need to swap, just learn a different driving technique and exploit the more progressive breakaway characteristics of a tire with a taller sidewall rather than the ‘all-or-nothing’ behavior of typical rubber band tires.
About 40 years ago Lotus was working on a full active suspension system for their F1 car. It produced amazing grip and the drivers hated it. Why? Because it masked problems with the tires that they would ordinarily feel, like a tire going flat, maintaining that maximum grip until it blew and they had -zero- opportunity to do anything about it. They were just an unwilling passenger at that point, a passenger that could get killed by the surprise crash or one that couldn’t drive back to the pits, get a new tire and continue in the race and still score some points.
![]() 07/07/2020 at 12:16 |
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I know basically nothing about F1, but I’d assume these days they’d have pressure monitors on all four tires constantly sending telemetry to the pits?
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I learned the hard (pun intended) way when I went from 15s to 17s on the E34. Not only did I put the low-profile wheels and tires on it but I also lowered the car and put some stiffer (albeit not as stiff as the ones on the E21) shocks and struts on it. The grip was amazing but ride was absolutely punishing. Although it sounds counterintuitive, I should have softened the suspension to make up for the lack of sidewall.
On the Mazda I am occasionally tempted by deals that crop up on 17s or 18s, but then I remember the cost of buying another set TPMS sensors and the brutal lack of comfort my BMWs had. No thanks - I’m sticking with 16s.
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Now, yes, but 40 years ago that was just a dream and they relied on the driver to be the telemetry system.
![]() 07/07/2020 at 12:39 |
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Coo l! T hen we’ll probably end up with the same wheels because I’m definitely going with something from Apex for the M3 . I have CSL knock offs on it which look fantastic but they are heavy and the ride is trash. They also take a fair amount of love to get balanced...
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I LOVE the ZCP wheels for the E9x, and would love to have a set, but it just makes so much more sense for me to get a square set of 18s. And the EC-7s look great, as well.
![]() 07/07/2020 at 13:52 |
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What’s on there are autox tires on there (A052s i think?) and quite frankly from a heat management perspective sidewall may not hurt.
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Agree, to a point. all of that impact damping also becomes less controlled suspension kinetics.
There has to be middle-ground between balloons and wrapping wheels in electrical tape.
That 981 looks quite good, but I think it might even look slightly better with 19" rear wheels with an overall taller rolling diameter, not just thinner rear sidewall.
With adjustable ride height struts, and keeping the car level to the ground, it would probably have a cool full-scale hotwheels car look to it, too.
The only potential issue would be to program the ABS wheel speed sensor analytics to account for the different rolling diameters, and not to throw error codes ... but 992 does that from the factory, now.
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I s he comfortable with his name released?